That´s a keeper.

20 Jan

Sooo…

I spend alot of time arguing with the dangerous people known as atheist, “freethinkers” and lefties (aka. “liberals”, aka. commie bastards). To be honest there are no hard line between them. We could just call them all “brainwashed liars” and be done with it. But, as all in that group would say, of course then we wouldn´t take the individual into consideration and be biased etc. etc.

Anyway, these people are filled with hate and nonsense and, as the next video will show, they can even believe a child has the answer to great troubles in identity, gender and culture. Let´s have a look —>
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So the debate (on the youtube video discussion) got heated, and looong. Time I could spend ranting on my own blog instead. I felt sad that this debate should disappear into the great flow and drown in the internet´s vortex of opinion.

Soooo, I thoughtThat´s a keeper“.

So for all of yours pleasure I give you the transcript of the discussion between me (political neutral (not neutered)) and some PC-THUGS. Enjoy.

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That’s nice healthy indoctoriation right there.A future sexually confused teen and alienated adult. Nice going Dad (!).
AndyAce83 3 days ago

@AndyAce83 Lol ok. ‘Being encouraged to question culture’ is ‘indoctrination’? Oxymoron, much?

Jacksthemouse 3 days ago

@Jacksthemouse It’s not questioning. Questioning is “Dad can’t I play with action figures?” and dad says “Sure. Why not.” This long tirade is called deconstructing and the child is a tool for an upprining that will not turn out good.

AndyAce83 3 days ago

@AndyAce83 …Um. You do realise there was a lot of ‘Why can’t we’ in what she was saying? I’m PREEEETTY sure that qualifies as questioning.

Jacksthemouse 2 days ago

@Jacksthemouse Well let me ask you this… cuz I’m PREEEETTY sure you will agree with me on that. Would it be an example of indoctrination if the child of a white supremacist asked “That why is there so many nig… in this mall?” or the inquisitive nature of the kid? The point is; we do not call it propaganda if it’s for Obama, we call it raising a child if it’s left wing, and we call it educating not brainwashing if it’s PC.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@Andy Ace83  WHAT??????????????

katpratt83 2 days ago

@katpratt83 Hehe.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 The kid’s asking a question, not making a statement. So no. If the parent tried to challenge their reasoning and he/she came back with more reasoning, that is NOT the child being led on or indoctrinated. Because they’re not ‘responding’ to it.

I think you’re reading way too much into this. Step back for heavens’ sake.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@Jacksthemouse I think close study will reveal that she is being corrected for crime-thought. The dialogue I am thinking of goes as follows; Girl: “[The Girls want to play with both] and the boys don’t want pink stuff. Yeah!”, “Well, boys want both. Why do you think that?”, “Because… Because… Because… they try to trick the girls…” She looks scared and wanting to please her father. This is indoctrination. I don’t think I read more into it than most. I just read other things

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 Either that or she’s stammering. You can’t assume you know everything about a situation from one video, asshat :/

Jacksthemouse 18 hours ago

@Jacksthemouse I guess we see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear. The questions are; is one born a liberal or mass suggested into one? And is there a cure?

AndyAce83 15 hours ago

@AndyAce83 You certainly do. Reading into something and insinuating ‘lol this is indoctrination because she looks scared’. So because you read into it… it means that studies would follow your suit? You flatter yourself. You’re clearly, HEAVILY biased against liberals/left wing folk for one thing, and seeing what YOU want to see makes your opinion more ‘valid’, apparently.

Jacksthemouse 13 hours ago

@Jacksthemouse biased is such a harsh word. Let’s call it “experienced”. I am “HEAVILY [experienced] against liberals/left wing folk”. And I think my interpretation holds water or you wouldn’t bitch about it like I hit you in the groin. The father corrected her thought-crime, and she duck-spoke back on track. Doubleplusgood 🙂

AndyAce83 12 hours ago

@AndyAce83 then why arent boys allowed to play with pink stuff

youratwitface 3 days ago

@youratwitface Same reason only in reverse and outcome will be a effemninte virgin who will live with his mom.

AndyAce83 3 days ago

@AndyAce83 your a loser. kids should be able to be themselves and parents should let them be themselves………

youratwitface 3 days ago

@youratwitface I just think it is a bad choice to raise your child to be an argumentative and deconstructive PC girl as that can make her a very unstable rootless adult. But sure “be themselves” is good.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 Ask yourself if you think anyone who has changed history would agree with you about that.

RussFx 2 days ago

@RussFx The point was that the child is not “herself” but is indoctrinated. You can’t change the world if you talk the talk of the ignorant collective. She does. If a person believes in darwinism then biology is king. A girl wants to play with girlish things, and boys with boy things. Why? Because culture is just a reaction formation of our animal need. I am not a darwinist btw, but I know most liberals are 😉

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 No, it’s a formation of what the forces driving culture WANT us to need. You see, we’re stuck with culture one way or another. It doesn’t mean we all have to like it, and many of us don’t. Some girls don’t want to play with girlish things, because it’s not how their ‘animal need’ works. Every animal is different, genius.

Jacksthemouse 2 days ago

@Jacksthemouse As I have said in earlier post; this is a fake and constructed problem. If you think there is something wrong with a culture, fad or tradition then you are free to have sex with someone, create a child and do not buy this and that toy for them while we other people who see no trouble with a girl playing with a baby doll and boys with GI Joes can do that. That is freedom not creating a fuzz about pink coloured bicycles.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 ..You’re really naiive if you think that you are ‘free’ to do anything without pressure to do otherwise. Culture lays down these unwritten rules which many swear by- namely, that girls wear pink and boys wear blue. It’s forced down everyone’s throats, from baby clothes to children’s toys. THAT is all this girl is saying. That’s the problem, and it’s getting a bit much at this point.

Jacksthemouse 2 days ago

@Jacksthemouse Call me what you want; I am saying it’s nothing wrong with raising a girl to be a girl, making her wear a dress to school and teaching her about make-up at 14(?). There is a correlation between identity, tradition and culture that is psychologically important to create a healthy person. To know who they are. If we remove some of the rules (that can be broken) a sense of well-being disappears. Norms are not bad and mostly “not forced”. We can, if we want, change them

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 Not forced? Excuse me? When you’re a child living under the influence of an overbearing parent, the rules ARE forced. Open your eyes. This child is no such kid, her parent certainly isn’t forcing her to do anything or be anything she doesn’t want to be.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@Jacksthemouse Well if you want to rebel you call attention. The more you force the more it will stretch, then it may brake. You know the law. If it’s important to you, then make an uprising. But as everything in life it will cost ya. If it’s not important then stay in line.

Man, it’s like I have to raise you. This is elementary knowledge of the world. Pick your battles. You don’t have to fight against everything. Genderolls are an important part in building safe relations.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 You should also realize that almost anything can be called “indoctrination”. We’re all brain washed. Sure we don’t like to admit it we like to point to points of view we don’t agree with and go see that! those people are brain washed. So he’s “indoctrinating” her to believe that it’s ok for boys to play with girl things and girls to play with boy things if they want. Call child protective services! Seems like an unfit parent to me… -_-

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Yes, in many way I agree with you. But you forget the trouble with cultural-Marxism and PC-terror. Gender study, deconstruction etc belongs to the left wing and they have gotten the power of defining right and wrong. I do not agree with their views as I am not a socialist.That is why I find it scary to see a child being indoctrinated at such a young age. If she was at college at least she had a more developed brain that perhaps could see the logical flaws of their lies:-)

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 The fact that you can relate this video so socialism and marxism shows that all you’re trying to do is confirm you’re own beliefs. Don’t act like some fox news sheep person who uses words they don’t understand. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you do know what it means which has nothing to do with breaking down gender stereotypes and roles. The only result of such a movement is kids breaking out of the norm, I suppose that’s scary to you, oh well.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Now, let’s stop lying to ourselves, uh? You see many of the same things as I, but would perhaps called it “empowering” or “feminism”. I say this because if you didn’t then we wouldn’t have discussed this for THREE DAYS!!!

I am from Norway. I do not get Fox News. Bigotry, much? In fact, we have no right wing newspapers/channels in my country. Only a webpages called the “dark side” of the internet by our Prime minister.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 Do you spend as much time worrying about all the parents who have beat there boys for being too girly? Cause I’d say that’s brainwashing and to a much more dangerous level. You clearly don’t understand the trend people are trying to end or you just like that trend to begin with. Which would be interesting since you claim to of played with girl toys as a child.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Yes, I do. I also think of how many people ought not to have children because they do not care for them at all. They may give them food, shelter and provide the basics of need but not give the children the love they need. Children has become something to fit the carpet in many homes. Sad to see. I also think about the high suicide rates of teens., the term anomie and how they correlate. And I worry about how many people get forced out in the cold for not “thinking right”.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 YOU’RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF NOW! God you’re annoying. I get it your a liberal hater and most of the people who like this video lean to the liberal side. (how many conservatives do you know who support a boy playing with a barbie if he so chooses) but this whole “political point” is nonsense, he recorded a video of his daughter and all she’s saying is that companies market certain things for girls and certain things for boys and that’s all completely true.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Hehe…. Hoooo… It’s so entertaining to see how liberals react to people who think differently and especially when they believe they are defending the right to be different. And no, I am not a “liberal hater” that is not allowed in my country now do to some resent events.

This video would have been innocent, indeed, if it wasnt’t t that innocent videos don’t get heated discussions below. You are definitely defending this videos “innocent” and cheering it on.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 You’re being a “liberal hater” or not has nothing to do with what is allowed in your country. You do recognize you’re being hypocritical right? I can find comments all over the page about you telling everyone they’re all liberal and indoctrinated and wrong. I personally don’t care what you believe because you don’t even live in the US and the people in the US who agree with you aren’t the type to take advice from ANY other country. You can’t judge a video based on comments.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 “I personally don’t care what you believe because you don’t even live in the US ” - You are the essence of tolerance 🙂

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 I’m just being honest. I have to deal with stupid Americans all the time and have to actually care because we all live in the same country and progress can be impeded by such people. With you I don’t care because you aren’t going to affect my life. Don’t try and spin that as some ignorant American quote. I’m just happy the Americans who I do have to deal with that would agree with you wouldn’t listen to a word you said anyways because you’re not American.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Row, row, row your boat…

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 I also live overseas before you just try and continue pretending like that quote (leaving out the second part that explains what I meant) means anything.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Oh, you live overseas? Yes, that makes your ignorance and lack of interest in other cultures and countries opinions and experiences all okay. And so very unlike most Americans(!).

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 How predictable, doing exactly as I said you would. Explain what I’ve said that is ignorant or lacks interests in other cultures? I simply pointed out that back in the US the people on “your side” of this issue would never listen to a word you say, so I don’t have to worry about your ideas affecting my life. I hope you truly are not “anti liberal” and aren’t just laying low because you don’t want to be associated with domestic terrorists.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 You said that since I lived in another country than my opinion didn’t matter to you. U also gave clear signs that you did not care that in my country it was not allowed to criticise your politics. I don’t know how much more explicit “I don’t care how it is in your country and I don’t care about your opinion.” you want it. I think it’s time to give it a rest Politico92. Time to look a little in the mirror and reflect. Perhaps u are not as tolerant as you thought you were?

AndyAce83 1 day ago

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politico92 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 I would expect a moron like you to accuse me of having “no interesting in other cultures” despite the fact that I’m living in Europe. Yes, I just moved here so I could walk around talking about how great the US is all the time, that’s the ticket. I also like to make american propaganda movies for annoying Norwegians.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 “I would expect a moron like you”. Oh, so we are at the Ad hominem stage now? “How predictable”. Yes, you have the right imperial attitude. And now you even bother walking outside of your borders to tell us how annoying we are? Very “white man’s burden” like 🙂 Yes, I see a bright future in you, as you speak tolerance like most liberals do. After your globe-trotting you should move to Hollywood and tells us all about it. Buy yourself a mirror and have a look!

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 Actually I’ve liked almost everyone I’ve met since I’ve been in Europe. I’m far from one of those “USA is the best!” Americans and don’t care if you believe it or not. I love Europeans and the different points of view. I guess that’s why I was intrigued so hear one sounding so much like the fox news zombies of my country. Oh well I guess from a country where a right winger kills children to prove his political points that I shouldn’t be too surprised.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 Everything you said was dobbleplusgood 🙂

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 I’m really bored with you though. You’re logic seems almost non existent. You say a video would have been innocent except for a bunch of liberals are liking it and getting into arguments with people like yourself hence this video was some planned malicious propaganda video about forcing more boys to act like girls. That’s the jump you take with it simply because you don’t agree with the words a little girl is saying.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 I think you got me logic, so it couldn’t have been non existent. “You say a video would have been innocent except for a bunch of liberals are liking it and getting into arguments with people like yourself hence this video was some planned malicious propaganda video about forcing more boys to act like girls” – sums it up pretty well my young padawan.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

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@politico92 I explained that first part 3 times now. As for the second I said that just because hating liberals isn’t legal doesn’t mean you don’t. You’re explanation of not being a liberal hater was what was pathetic. But sure go ahead and pretend like I was hating on your culture so you can feel like I am the intolerant one. I shouldn’t of expected you to twist pick apart and rearrange my words any less than you would to a little girl on youtube. oh well, fuck off Norgie! =)

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 … 

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 “You don’t have to fight against everything.”. Uh huh. And YOU don’t have to fight against what THIS video is saying. You’re fighting a battle against A FOUR YEAR OLD who is speaking her mind!

All the girl is saying is that there is just too much ‘pink’ and ‘princesses’ practically shoved on to girls, and is questioning why. Leave her to her battles. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS VIDEO. Quit the nitpicking because it’s seriously getting you nowhere.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 While gender roles may be important in some way, there is no point in forcing a gender role in terms of INTERESTS. Things like health and personal hygiene.. it’s necessary to learn what’s attributed to us. But there is no need for ‘gender interests’ to be forced onto us, and there never was.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 Face it. It IS all a ploy. If it wasn’t, the girls’ section of toys would not be as saturated with sickly pink as it is. It would be a mix of all kinds of colours to go with any frills.

Take a note of the really young kids’ toys, garbed with many different colours. Why, then, does the ‘gender role’ of childhood divert to being mostly ‘pink’ or ‘blue’? Because the companies WANT it to be that way. Because going by the norm makes more money. It’s nothing to do with ‘setting standards’.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@Jacksthemouse Why do people wear black in a funeral? Isn´t that racist? Why is red the color of PASSION when it obviously is the color of fire? I don´t feel blue when I am sad, I feel dark so we better remove that connotation to.

Seriously… There are no words. Talk about making mountains out of piles of shi… anyway.. I guess we got to agree to disagree.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 …I’m not talking about removing all connotations to different colours, ignoramus. I’m talking about NOT attributing a COLOUR to a whole SEX. Because there’s clearly more to a sex than a few sickly, fluffy, saturated colours, and the toy companies are stupid for not acknowledging that fact for girls’ toys as a whole.

I haven’t got any words left for you either. And you brought the hostility on yourself when you decided to parade your pedantic arse on this harmless video.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@Jacksthemouse Oh, sorry then. You and your equals should ofcourse be the ones who decides what colour should represent what, and what deserves a color and what should not. Thank you for clearing that up. Ofcourse the left should decide everything and me and my equal should keep our mouth shut;-)

I say what I think, and fight everyday for people to be allowed to be honest. Ofcourse hostility will occure. This is not a harmless video. Look at the view counts, cretin!

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 So… it’s not harmless… because it has a high view count?

I’m not saying I should dictate MY ideals on ‘what colour makes a representation’. I NEVER once said that. I’m saying- dressing a whole ‘girls aisle’ with pink is just not on. And for reasons I’ve stated quite enough now.

As far as the colour black for funerals is concerned, it has nothing to do with this issue, because it’s about tradition and respect, not interests and commercialism.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 So the fact you’re going WELL out of your way to find a problem with the way she’s being raised is beyond unreasonable. Grow up.

Jacksthemouse 1 day ago

@Jacksthemouse I don’t. I am only criticizing this video it’s contents. I do not claim she is being abused or anything. I am just saying what my original post said. And this videos success shows that many people support this political trend based on lies and deconstruction. In Europe we are waking up from this gender-study nightmarish experiment and looking to US and their studies. As we do US seem to be turning to “that’s not interesting” lies of genderstudies.

AndyAce83 1 day ago

@AndyAce83 The little girl is saying she doesn’t understand why all the girls stuff has to be pink because maybe she doesn’t always want pink. Way to find a problem with that. The parents seem to be doing a more than adequate job.

politico92 2 days ago

@politico92 Do you see a problem with what I am saying? Why? If you see no problem or (political) reason for this video then why do you care what I see as “wrong” in this video? Because you know very well why this video was posted and it goes far beyond a little girls tantrum over wanting a Barbie in a blue dress 😉

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 I can see you think you’re logic is flawless. The guy posted a video of his daughter, if you look at his other videos he has plenty more of her. Then you call her “indoctrinated” and I would hardly call this video a tantrum. I can tell from your messages though that you’re clearly against the idea of boys and girls breaking from gender stereotypes and that’s why your acting like this video has some ulterior motive. Get a life.

politico92 2 days ago 2

@politico92 You bother to “argument” against me and then tell me to “get a life”. Who needs to “get a life” here? Then again anyone who finds gender bending to be interesting really should get a hobby.

And to answer me “breaking from gender stereotypes” is funny when Monty Python does it and obviously is salable when Gaga does it. But for the man on the street it´s just disturbing. Anyone who have seen a drunken middleaged crossdresser knows that. His lip-stick all smudged.

Bugh!

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 Welcome to the 21st Century. People are learning to let their kids be who they are and like what they like without worrying to much over every stupid thing. Forcing a child to play with one toy over another because you feel that “gender bending” is a problem is stupid. There’s nothing “gender bending” about a girl playing with a action figure at all. The fact that you bring up crossdressers just shows your ignorance on the issue. You were better suited to live in the 50’s.

politico92 2 days ago

@politico92 And that’s where you are wrong. This is NOT an issue of kids playing with what they want. Cuz I am pretty sure that this Dad will give that kid her action figure. The fact is, this video forces a debate that is fake. It gives the impression that girls are forced to play with Barbies, but it’s more about taking away their dollies and make them play with GI Joes. It’s about giving internalisation more power than it really has.”Come on Girls PLAY WITH THOSE FUCKING GI JOES!”

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 It’s a video of a father recording something cute his daughter is saying that sounds funny coming out of a small childs mouth. You’re the one who is going all conspiracy theorist about a homevideo. He also has a picture of her dressed like a fairy singing, what’s the secret message there? No debate is being forced. You should chill out and spend more time worrying about actual propaganda if you feel the need to make a big deal out of something.

politico92 2 days ago 2

@politico92 Whoah, having problems understanding AndyAce83…Kids this age do Not need prompting to express what they Feel!! I have a 22 yr. old Stepson, & a 17 year old daughter…. When they were small, Amber Loved playing Action figures, Transformers, & Any kind of Battle game or sword fight with her brother Trev!!! About as much as he loved playing Barbies & Dress-up with her!! It’s all good!!

katpratt83 2 days ago

@katpratt83 I don’t get it, or you don’t get it? The trouble is not that people play with unisex toys, or toys made for the “other” gender. The trouble is that it is made a big deal of, because of leftwing political motivations. It’s called deconstruction, making the differences between man and woman unimportant, and the similarities all that counts. This video and it’s success is symptomatic for that political thought. It’s anomic in its “everything solids melts into air”.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@politico92 Dare I ask what “actual propaganda” is? Does it has something to do with the MAN and big business?

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 There’s propaganda from all sorts of sources. It’s entertaining that you scoff at the idea of propaganda coming from “the MAN” and big business as if that never happens while your blowing a home movie out of proportion.

politico92 2 days ago

@politico92 Oh, I don’t. I know very well that the MAN and “big business” makes propaganda. When BB does it it’s called advertisement and commercial when the MAN does it it’s called “Hollywood talks about election to us the ignorant masses”, “vote Obama”, “yes we can”. “CHANGE!”. And I may on other videos point out the propaganda of those kinds of videos… But on this video I will point out that a child is getting indoctrinated. You can even hear the father correcting/leading her.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 I find it entertaining and worrisome that you think it’s so wrong for parents to encourage their kids to play with whatever they want. You try and take it to some sinister level like liberals are trying to make every little boy play with barbies now or something. They’re not, they’re just trying to stop the practice of making every little kid that strays away from “gender appropriate” toys feel like there is something wrong with them and they need to change.

politico92 1 day ago

@politico92 I am just stating the obvious and pointing out that the video is politically charged and that those who love this video believe in the deconstruction nonsense of gender study and left-wing “science”. I am further saying that raising a child like that is experimenting with someone’s psyche and worse an entire culture. I don’t share your view on the sanctions on not playing with “gender appropriate” toys. But I live somewhere else so what do I know?

AndyAce83
1 day ago

@politico92 I agree!

katpratt83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 You Don’t Get it….

katpratt83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 This was NOT a Tantrum,,,, Apparently you are not a parent!! (Or else you have extremely well behaved children0!!!

katpratt83 2 days ago

@politico92 YES!!!

katpratt83 2 days ago

@AndyAce83 Bwhahahahaha! Why do you care? Are you afraid of girls who think outside pink? You strike me as someone who clings to masculinity with all your might.

Widgetski 2 days ago

@Widgetski And why do you care? I played with boy toys, girl toys with boys and girls when I was a kid. But it wasn’t my parents who directed me. It wasn’t some sort of “freethinking” political ideal that was forced on my child-hood. I played with what the hell I wanted, no questions asked (expect in my kindergarden we were not allowed to play with “violent toys” which I rebelled against!). The trouble nowadays is not that girls are forced to be girls but boys are forced to be girls.

AndyAce83 2 days ago

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